The Bachelorette Podcast is BACK!

At long last, I’ve finally gotten my act together to be fully dressed, had the baby dressed and changed, had a fully charged cell phone and 5 minutes to record. The following is a quick take on the finale / After the Final Rose of The Bachelorette. Ellie has been chatting about the controversial information that Nick revealed on the ATFR segment. She couldn’t hold it back anymore and begged me to do a podcast.

Here it is:


Bachelorette Andi Dorfman Gets Engaged; No Bachelor Choice Announced

joshnadiHave I really been sitting here for 3 hours watching this insanity? The Husband has just announced that he may be done watching the show with me. NOOOOOO! Although I can understand some of his frustrations. Did we really go through all of that and STILL don’t know who our next Bachelor is? Is there any way it won’t be Chris the Farmer? Why wouldn’t they tell us? Are they waiting to gauge the public’s interest in Nick having a shot at the title? Poor guy was clearly heartbroken and had the class to say that Josh is a stand up guy, but I guess his “below the belt” (literally) comment may make some think he was shady after all? More on that later.

First – THANK YOU, Bach Producers, for not making us sit through 15 minutes of recap of each of the relationships. The show began right with Nick arriving to meet Andi’s parents. We got ZERO feedback from Andi’s family once he left, which was pretty frustrating. All we saw was Patti crying at Nick’s confession of how much he loves her daughter. Both Nick and Josh were so nervous. I’m guessing they watched Andi’s hometown date on Juan Pablo’s season and were terrified of Hy.

Here is some of what Andi had to say about Nick (so odd to hear these words now that we know she picked Josh):

“When Nick kisses me, he sees me and my entire soul. He makes me feel like a woman. He’s all passion.” She then goes on to describe their relationship as being an intellectual connection as well as a passionate one. Seems like the perfect combo to me. Her last date with Josh was very touchy feely and it was evident that she couldn’t keep her hands off the guy. I thought it would be way more obvious that she wasn’t as into Nick, but quite honestly – I couldn’t really see THAT big of a difference. Josh is all smiles and light hearted and happy go lucky. Never saw a very deep, intellectual conversation between the two of them like she had with Nick. I’d think that with Andi being a lawyer and liking her profession, that she’d need more sophistication when it came to conversations with her future husband. Josh just has that “it” factor, however, that she couldn’t get past. She’s swept up in his charisma and charm. Not that this is a bad thing, I’m just not sure it has staying power.

But let’s throw all of that aside and talk about the one thing I’m still shocked about -

Nick comes back on the LIVE FINALE and basically announces to the world that a) he’s still completely heartbroken and in love with Andi and b) Andi and him “made love” and he’s more confused than ever as to why she led him on. So maybe he’s not supposed to talk about what happens in the fantasy suite. Andi says that he’s gone “below the belt.” If Nick were more quick witted, he could have said, “well, actually, Andi, it’s both of us who went below the belt.” Instead, he spent way too long trying to think of what to say. I’m sure it’s not easy on live TV, but Andi’s too quick for him. Plus as soon as he let that little nugget out of the bag, her entire body language changed. She was PISSED and probably mortified.

This is actually the first time that I really liked Nick. Because I didn’t see any indication from Andi’s behavior towards him that would indicate in any way that she wasn’t going to choose him. Yes, maybe a little less touchy feely and smiley than she was with Josh – but I didn’t think this was a bad thing. And she certainly gave Nick plenty of kisses and reassurances. She even said to him on their last date that “it’s gonna be alright.” And when they slept together, Nick had already told her that he loved her and was going to marry her. What was he supposed to think? Was she still figuring out her feelings then? She claims she was in love with Josh from the minute she saw him. So why did she feel the need to sleep with Nick? Couldn’t they have just cuddled and talked? And now we can assume she slept with Josh too in the fantasy suite? I don’t think Nick called her out on their “love making” to degrade her. I think he was honestly flustered and trying to make sense of their time together.

My bigger question is why Chris Harrison didn’t ask Josh how he felt about the fact that Andi and Nick slept together. Did he not hear the discussion going on while he was back stage? I sincerely hope that Andi told Josh about her “relations” with Nick beforehand so it wasn’t such a shock. I wonder what Hy makes of this situation.

On the flip side – there were some signs all along that Andi would pick Josh: 

- The fact that Andi was calling Josh, “Babe” and he was calling her, “Baby.”

- The fact that Andi’s baseball card gift from Josh was really funny and made Andi laugh. Andi seems to value laughter and lightheartedness over intensity and intellect.

- The fact that we saw Andi and Josh canoodle and kiss each other for a full 18 minutes of air time versus a small snippet of Andi’s last date with Nick.

- All Andi can say is “awwww” in response to Nick telling her how much he loves her family and her.

- Andi kept saying that she struggles with her heart and brain when thinking about Josh. That always means she’ll go with her heart.

- Nick’s description of day to day life with Andi sounded like a nightmare. He’s basically working all day until 5:30ish and then they’ll “make out” at night? How long is that going to be fun for in Milwaukee? What will Andi do? How can she go back to a regular job after she’s been The Bachelorette? He says he “can’t wait to go grocery shopping with her.” She just stares at him.

Other points worth mentioning:

- The whole bait and switch with Neil Lane showing up in Josh’s room but Andi showing up at Nick’s room was very clever and yet aggravating. Really? Andi just woke up that morning and felt something wasn’t right? So it had nothing to do with the fact that she’s having sex with another human being? She doesn’t like that they over analyze everything? Isn’t that what the entire season is about? Over analyzing feelings? How unfair.

- Of course it’s raining after Andi dumps Nick. Seemed appropriate.

- Did Josh’s suit jacket seem to tight for him at the proposal? Not sure if the humidity made him swell up or if he just ate too much during the season, but that thing was busting off his chest.

- Love Chris Harrison’s poker face of greeting Josh when he’s about to find out whether he’s the GUY.

- This was QUITE a contrast of a finale with Juan Pablo’s finale, right?

- Does anyone else think that Nick reminds them of Spencer Pratt?

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I always love a heartfelt Bachelorette proposal and Josh’s words did not disappoint. Do they help him script this stuff? I’m glad that he got his happy ending because he seems like a great guy (though not sure he’d ever have difficulty meeting a nice girl – he has a lot going for him). Just curious to see how they will fair once the cameras go away and she’s no longer The Bachelorette and is forced to follow her future brother in law around each weekend.

Well that’s all for now, but am curious as to what you all thought of tonight’s show. I’m just glad the season is over and we can all move on with our lives. I’ll be watching Bachelor in Paradise but to preserve the sanctity of this Bachelor blog, I will only be doing modified posts (there’s only so much nonsense I can take aside from the main seasons of The Bachelor / Bachelorette). In the meantime, you can follow my weekly articles on Thought Catalog ( My latest one went up today:

More on Ellie tomorrow – maybe I’ll do a video podcast with her to discuss her thoughts on tonight’s finale. Stay tuned!


Bachelorette Finale Starts Now…

Who’s watching? Who stalked her post rejection? Hard to believe we’ve made it through another season. Congrats on getting here. Ok, going to watch…


The Men Tell All on The Bachelorette

andiNot sure tonight’s episode warrants more than ten minutes of writing as time means sleep these days and I don’t get enough of either. I can’t even get into how ridiculous the JJ vs. Andrew racism debate was. Clearly it was the ONLY controversial subject of the entire season and they had to draw it out as much as possible. I do believe that Andrew’s remarks have cut into his personal life. I do think Marquel handled the whole situation as graciously as possible. I don’t like that Farmer Chris or the Basketball Coach felt the need to voice their opinions on this one – not their battle. Don’t really have anything more to say about this, except that it’s really embarrassing for Andrew whether he said it or not because he’ll be labeled a racist forever.

Completely absurd that Ashley and JP felt the need to find out the sex of their baby on TV. That’s a pretty private moment that I hope they found out about first before pretending to find out with everyone else. Feel like these two keep popping up at reunion shows. A move to Miami is pretty drastic. Wonder if they were fighting too much because of being trapped inside during a cold winter. Warm weather and a baby won’t resolve their issues if that’s the case. It’ll just be really hot when they’re changing diapers and up all night. Ashley seems like the controlling, Type A personality in this pair. Didn’t exactly get the warm and fuzzies from watching them together, but maybe I’m imagining things.

I fast forwarded through almost every other conversation that took place. Very glad that Marquel and Marcus are going to be on Bachelor in Paradise. Pretty sick of Michelle Money and Chris B (guy who showed up unannounced on Andi’s season) and have zero interest in seeing them clamor for attention.

Was so hoping they would interview Farmer Chris tonight and announce him as Bachelor, but I’m sure that’s coming at the Live portion of the After the Final Rose. It really can’t be anyone else. Nick’s got too many people thinking he’s shady. I was shopping for clothes this afternoon and a woman overheard me telling a friend that I had to get home for The Bachelorette. She shouted at me from across the store, “Who do you think she’s going to pick?” When I said, “Josh,” she said, “Yeah, that other guy is too strange.” That seems to be the general consensus, plus it’s never a good sign when the majority of the other contestants don’t like you for whatever reason. Andi’s thinking of every reason not to choose Josh because she’s scared of baseball players, but in the end, she’ll go with her heart and I think that’s with Josh.

Strangest part of the night (besides Andrew accidentally referring to Ron (the OTHER African American) instead of Marquel) was the woman who came out of the audience to meet Farmer Chris and do a speed date with him. As The Husband put it, “this show is becoming a carnival.” So true.

I was really hoping that all of the guys unanimously agreed that Andi’s “STAHHHHHP” was incredibly annoying but they never gave us the results of that. No idea what the deal was with that letter Chris H left for Andi from one of her final guys. When was that filmed? Does anyone care? ‘Nuff said about tonight. 

We’ve been trying to get Ellie to take regular naps during the day. She’s exhausted as hell but fights us every time. She’ll sleep in the stroller, sometimes in the swing but never in the crib. Then she’s crabby like nothing I’ve ever seen before between 4 and 6:30 PM. To the point where I question if she’s going to have a testy personality when she’s older. There’s no consoling her during that time. Even Lady Gaga and Michael Jackson dance parties only temporarily console her before her wailing continues. She does do long stretches of sleep at night in the crib, so we’re grateful for that.

Time for bed. Promised myself that this show would not keep me up past 11 PM and so far, I’m on track. Little girl will have me up in 7 hours, so every second counts.

Night, night.


Paradise at the Paradisus: The Bachelorette Picks Her Final Two for Overnight Fantasy Suite Dates

The Millionaire Farmer Bachelor?

The Millionaire Farmer Bachelor?

I think we’ve found our next Bachelor, Folks! I’m ready to move on from this season and follow that hot farmer back to Iowa to find him the perfect wife and daughter-in-law for that darling mother of his. Finally, Andi admitted what we all knew from day one: She’s not meant to be a homemaker / farmer’s wife. I give her credit for rejecting the opportunity to take that sweet, handsome man to the fantasy suite.

Not much to point out in this episode other than the following:

  • Josh has perfect teeth and possibly waxed eyebrows. Because he’s dark and olive skinned and typically men with his coloring have lots of body hair and he just seems so perfectly groomed that I’d be shocked if he didn’t naturally have a unibrow. He was giddy as a schoolboy on that baseball field and devilishly handsome. But it must be frustrating for Andi, who is very analytical, to try and get a serious, deep side out of Josh. He just seems like a happy go lucky, lusty kind of fellow that lives in the moment. 
  • The Paradisus in the Dominican Republic is supposed to be fantastic. Five star, top of the line, very expensive / all inclusive. I wonder if they always have tikki torches set up with fancy private dinners or if the producers set this up. It looks beautiful regardless, especially the fantasy suite that she was in with Josh. I’d like to be transplanted there tomorrow with The Husband. And Wally. And the baby too, I guess, if we had someone who could let me sleep in one of those awesome beds.
  • Farming could be in my blood too. I just don’t know it yet. If I moved to Iowa, I’d never want to be a lawyer. I’d build a Field of Dreams and have Kevin Costner come guest host barbecues and we’d have batting practice in the corn fields.
  • I feel like Chris the Farmer has a very slight resemblance to Chris Harrison. Maybe it’s their head shape and coloring? Maybe it’s just their name?
  • Nick seems extremely intense and serious around Andi. She’s almost freaked out by it. He was clearly babbling to tell her something on their private island beach trip and she’d rather go snorkeling. Then when both Nick and Josh finally admit that they love her, she gets the same large kid grin like she’s scored a victory from each.
  • Iowa aside, Andi’s just not that into Chris. What she really wants is Josh’s personality with Nick’s passion / mental connection combined with Chris’s professional success.
  • Do we think Andi slept with both Nick and Josh? Do we care? Did the aphrodisiac work that Josh consumed?
  • There seemed to be way too much recap of her relationships with these guys, more recaps of these relationships with Chris Harrison and just general filler. Speaking of filler…The Men Tell All will feature no interesting insights at all except if they tell us who our next Bachelor is.
  • Andi went from refusing to wear anything but a one piece on the Juan Pablo season to fully going full bikini on a towel on the beach.
  • It would be awesome if she became Andi Murray. They could do a whole British tennis theme hashtag for their wedding.

In other news:

- Renee Oteri (one of the single moms from Juan Pablo’s season) not only got married a couple months ago, but announced this week that she is PREGNANT. Due in January. Congrats to her!!!

- The cast of Bachelor in Paradise was announced. Highlights include Michelle Money and Graham Bunn (who is 36 and way too old to compete on this show any more though he’s a nice guy), Crazy Michelle Kujawa who needs shock therapy based on her last appearance on both Jake Pavelka’s season and Bachelor Pad, Season 1, Marquel, Marcus, Cody and Tasos from Andi’s season (some will be disappointed that Marquel and Marcus will not be the next Bachelor, but I’m psyched that this makes the Farmer even closer to claiming the title). We’ve got CLARE from Juan Pablo’s season!!! Oh and AshLee Frazier who was on Sean Lowe’s season and was a Personal Organizer. Rumor had it she dated Brad Womack for a bit, but they broke up. I honestly don’t know that I can right a very detailed blog post of that show but I’ll definitely watch and make some basic commentary. Hope someone else out there will watch too.

- Ashley Hebert posted pictures of herself at 25 weeks pregnant with hubby JP Rosenbaum. She’s due in October.

In non-Bachelor related news:

I’m still exhausted. Ellie turned 4 months last Thursday. She’s rolling over and giggling a bunch. She’s also regularly getting up at 3 AM to scream for an hour before she tires herself out. It’s not fun. Our poor neighbors. We finally took Wally for a check up at the vet and he’s put on some of my pregnancy weight.

And that’s all. Who do you think she’ll go with?


The Bachelorette: Hometown Dates, Tragedy and a Hot Farmer

Final Four

Final Four

The dog is snoring next to me which is a sure sign that The Bachelorette was just on. Hometown Dates is usually one of my favorite episodes of the season as it’s always fascinating to see where each of the final four come from, but Wally and The Husband disagree. The Husband completely zoned out by Marcus’s date and even had the gall to ask me to recap it for him. Um, that’s what the DVR and this blog is for, Honey.

Before I comment on the dates, just wanted to take a moment to discuss the way that Eric Hill’s death was revealed on the show. It seemed really unnecessary to film an entire 2 minutes of all the guys waiting for Andi’s arrival to give them all the news at Chris Harrison’s house. Though truthfully, I’ve always wanted to see Chris Harrison’s house (but not for this reason of course). It also seemed that the way Chris H presented the “issue” to the guys before Andi arrived that the news had something to do with Andi (she realized she’s not interested in any of them OR she decided that she wants to start dating Chris Harrison – I kind of expected her to come out of his bedroom wearing a bathrobe or something). I guess this footage really gave us a raw view at how shocked, devastated and emotional that everybody was over Eric’s death. Andi did really regret her last interaction with Eric, which at the time, seemed wildly immature on her part.  It did seem rather petty to have a rose ceremony just 24 hours after learning of Eric’s death, but I guess delaying the process was not an option. I really hope that Eric’s family is doing ok as he seemed like such a unique and genuinely nice person.

As for the dates, the following stood out for me:

(1) I had no idea that Nick had like 10 siblings. Or 9? Are they all from the same set of parents? The youngest one, Bella, stole the show for me. I loved her questions for Andi and loved even more that she couldn’t remember the answers to them when Nick asked her. Maria seemed smart to question whether he could actually have the feelings for Andi that he claimed to. It’s like every contestant that’s made it this far has gone completely insane and their closest family members are trying to get them to reclaim their brain cells. Nick is still sporting that ridiculous scarf which just makes him look like a poet of some sort.

(2) How can you not love Chris the Farmer? Can Andi just dump him already so he can be our next Bachelor? I’d love for him to find a Farmer’s wife. Coast to Coast search for the Farmer’s wife! He’d be perfect. I just loved his family and 3 blonde sisters. Love that we learn how successful Chris has been. I loved his farm house with very modern appliances. I love that he tried to convince Andi that she’d be thrilled to be a homemaker or could practice law in Iowa (not going to happen). He’s adorable and could give Andi a nice and simple life. She’d be bored to tears in a matter of minutes. And how long can he really listen to her pretend to be excited with her, “Shut-Ups” at seeing a tractor. How else did she think he got around on the farm than with a tractor? Why is she so shocked that it has big wheels?

(3)  Andi hunts? And her family has a lake house in Alabama? Maybe she’s not Jewish after all.

(4) I was pretty certain that Josh would be the one going home tonight. The Husband informed me that Josh’s brother, Aaron Murray, was drafted in the fifth round by the Kansas City Chiefs. He was the starting quarterback for the Georgia Bulldogs before that. So Andi’s options are to be a homemaker on a farm or to follow Josh’s brother around to football games in Kansas City every Sunday? I don’t think she’ll go for either of these options after being The Bachelorette. I noticed a borderline pout when the conversation at Josh’s family’s house was not 100% focused on her and Josh. I still don’t know how deep his emotions run. But he’s got a very attractive brother and mother and still has the best teeth this season.

(5) I was embarrassed for Marcus and his strip tease for Andi. I’m sure that was 100% the producers’ suggestion but it just felt icky. What I was surprised about was how much Andi went on about Marcus’s “hotness.” And she fully admits that he’d adore her. And she’s attracted to him intellectually. So what’s the problem? He dropped the I Love Yous too early. I think she was definitely into him until he kept laying it on. It was literally every other sentence that he said to her.

(6) I loved Andi’s hair in the rose ceremony tonight – all loose waves. You know she was way too comfortable with Marcus’s family by the fact that she wore a pony tail. I like that Andi hasn’t been wearing too many pairs of ridiculous shoes. She sported Converse sneakers for her date with Josh.

(7) Every guy was in tears this episode. Have there ever been a final four so in love with The Bachelorette? Each is ready to propose.

I’m getting anxious for the overnight fantasy dates because Andi is probably the only person in the show’s history who uses this opportunity to get to know the people. She’s not afraid to call them out if it goes poorly (like with Juan Pablo). So tragedy aside, tonight’s episode was more interesting than not interesting, but mostly because the families all seemed great.

Chris the Farmer is coming from behind but really hoping he doesn’t make it any further because I want him as our next Bachelor. “The Farmer and the Belle” – I can already see the trailers for his season. I think her heart is telling her to go for Josh (she’s still seriously attracted to him), but her head is saying that Nick or Chris are better options for a long term relationship. What do you think?